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Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2011.05.08 18:33:00 - [1] It's also invalid because Verin is likely to punch you in the **ing face. ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2011.05.08 22:13:00 - [2] You ignored most of Aria's statements about why the Nation's philosophy is functionally invalid, attempting, transparently and pathetically (like most of the things you do, so at least you're consistent) to change the subject at the last minute to questioning the philosophies of other empires. The fact is, while they are not entirely internally consistent, the philosophies: a. are not tied to the machinations of a single delusional psychotic b. have verifiably produced basically functional, enduring societies ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2011.05.09 00:50:00 - [3] Originally by: Crucifire Given how much you throw around the terms delusional and psychotic they really lose all meaning coming from you Empty words from an empty person. Come up with something real and meaningful and then maybe we'll talk. Originally by: Crucifire but I'll go ahead and do the same; the Caldari State is tied to the machinations a delusional psychotic. Except that currently, it actually is. Glad we finally found one thing you believe that's actually true. Originally by: Crucifire And what isn't enduring about a society that survived the attempted genocide from four different nations? Sounds pretty goddamn functional to me. Except none of that is actually true. You are literally the worst debater since Arelius Sarum. ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2011.05.09 03:13:00 - [4] Originally by: Rek Jaiga I must excuse myself from the figurative debate table. I have been emotionally compromised and am in no condition to formulate, defend, or even discuss arguments of any sort. This is true all the time. Guess that means we won't be seeing you any time soon. We won't miss you. ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2011.05.09 19:32:00 - [5] Originally by: Rek Jaiga Oh sod off, you ad hominem-flinging ankle-biter. Originally by: Crucifire Get **d by a horse, Ixiris. You two are so many kinds of ironic. And pathetic. Watching Nation supporters get angry is a joy. Originally by:** Rek Jaiga You're pretty mighty whenever you throw in a personal attack without contributing a single damned thing to a discussion, aren't you? You're Sansha. Your commentary holds no merit and your discussions deserve no politeness. Originally by: Rek Jaiga At least I try to improve things Don't make me laugh. Originally by: Rek Jaiga you do little else but tear other peoples' ideas down without giving an alternative. You amount to little more than a bully of the intellectual world. That sort of accusations is reserved for the intellectually bankrupt. You're sand between my toes. ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2011.05.09 19:43:00 - [6] Originally by: Rek Jaiga "You are of faction X, and thus your words hold no meaning". Really man? I love how you just declare somebody's words meaningless. It's like a handwave of the most ignorant kind. Pretty much every argument in favour of the Sansha's Nation has already been discredited. I have no need, desire nor inclination to waste my time repeating these refutations for your benefit. Originally by: Rek Jaiga Right, becuase it's ok for me to admit a wrongdoing or otherwise recognzie my own flaws, but God forbid you do the same. There is no God. ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2011.05.09 19:50:00 - [7] Originally by: Rek Jaiga "Discredited" and "disproven" are two very different things. To discredit something is simply to make something be distrusted; not so hard with most people in the case of Nation. To actually disprove something is a much grander task. Ah, so now it boils down to semantics. Well it's both. The type of people who make the argument - delusional, backstabbing sociopaths, for the most part - discredit it perfectly. Logic and reason does the brute force work for disproving. Originally by: Rek Jaiga It's an expression. Meaning that not even an all-powerful entity could bring your massive ego down to size. It's funny that you talk about ego, and yet in the same breath sing the praises of a Nation whose explicit, sole purpose is to act as a vehicle for the God complex of the one who named it after himself. You are a sad, sorry little individual, and even if I had the empathy required to pity you, I still probably wouldn't. ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2011.05.09 20:12:00 - [8] Originally by: Rek Jaiga The characteristics of the person making an argument determine whether or not the argument is correct, am I right? Oh wait.. The characteristics of a person are relevant to an argument - and thus, in case I have to spell it out for you, not ad hominem - if that behaviour directly impacts on the validity of the arguments pressented. Nation is supposed to be a sinless, flawless collective of perfect Unity. It has time and again proved that it is nothing of the sort by the statements and actions of those who support it. Originally by: Rek Jaiga Because he is the single greatest opportunity of the last century to improve humanity! Why would you not take the deal of a century? Because he's nothing of the sort. The only reason he even bothers pretending it is is because as many people - Vaari, SirMolle, Constantine, Aralis - have discovered, it's harder to get supporters for what is openly a personal vanity project than a personal vanity project that pretends it has a higher cause. Originally by: Rek Jaiga Oh my poor heart. I do not know how I'll survive! Just get it replaced, like everything else about you. Originally by: Rek Jaiga But I have been trying to demonstrate Nation's morality, and I have tried to demonstrate that this is one of the greatest opportunities for humanity out there! And you've failed spectacularly. Originally by: Rek Jaiga Even if this is the case, I must press on until not a single True Slave exists anymore. Only then will I know Nation is not viable. That's a lot of work to prove something that's already self-evident. ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2011.05.09 20:28:00 - [9] Originally by: Rek Jaiga Let me be abundantly clear, although I've stated it far too many times. Now hear this! [u][b]I am not a part of Nation. I simply support it. If I were a true slave I would be sinless, I would be flawless, and I would be part of the collective of perfect Unity. So if this Unity is so perfect, why don't you join it, Rek? Originally by: Rek Jaiga But I am not a True Slave Yeah, that figures. I did imagine they have at least some recruiting standards. Originally by: Rek Jaiga I am not a True Slave and thus do not represent Nation, but only represent myself as a supporter. If the Nation is as perfect as you say it is, why do you not join it? What's stopping you? Originally by: Rek Jaiga You either understand it, or you don't. I think I do understand, finally. I didn't before, but I do now. I know what your problem is: you don't really believe in Nation, do you? Else there'd be absolutely nothing holding you back from actually joining it, rather than just "supporting" it. You're just not so sure that it lives up to all your hype. You're afraid you might actually be wrong. ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2011.05.09 23:14:00 - [10] Originally by: ValentinaDLM You know very well, Sansha's Nation has no open program to allow capsuleers to join such as the empires have such as the Federal Defence Union et al. Of course he doesn't. That's an organisation, not a process. You could simply submit your body to the same process as all other True Slaves go through - that all the people brutally abducted from their homes last year went through. But something tells me that you don't have the spine to do it. Originally by: ValentinaDLM But since you are just saying this as you want to hear angry voices, hold on, let me think of an insult to placate you, as you seem to have a fetish for verbal abuse...ah, I have it "Why don't you choke on your own bile Ixiris" Happy? Or would you prefer more chidlish galnet memes? No. It just gives me pleasure to see Nation supporters angry. And to know that they have absolutely no power to strike back at me. ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2011.05.10 00:35:00 - [11] Originally by: Crucifire Something tells me that if any of us become True Slaves, you'd refute it anyways saying we're just more "delusional capsuleers." You really are a ***. I'm not angry, anyway. I'll still say it again in a nice, calm, and controlled tone; get ***d by a horse. Your rage sustains me, you pathetic little woman. Oh, and you are a delusional capsuleer. So that's funny too. ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor
Andreus Ixiris Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2011.05.10 01:51:00 - [12] Originally by: Rek Jaiga Not really. Everyone's so polarized on the issue that no one's willing to concede anything to the other side. That's generally what happens in a debate when one side is obviously wrong. (Oh, just in case you didn't pick up on the subtle implication: it's your side). ----- Andreus Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor

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